Pay now or pay later.

You know, there are a lot of car companies out there that sell really ****ty cars, but people still buy them.



I think the same can be said of everything.

 

i guess that's true...but theres still that hope in the back of my head saying i can get a full turbo setup for under 1500

 

you can if you shop right and don't expect high end parts at the beginning

 

i have been shopping. manifolds run usually at least 600-800 turbo's run 500-700 intercooler's are all over the board. BOV's 200+, wastegate 150, APEX'I SAFC 2, MSD BTM, Z32 MAF,downpipe, 370cc+ injectors, list goes on. then of course ur gonna want an apexi turbo timer and guages,various electronic goodies, idk maybe i haven't found what i'm lookin for yet. o and of course at least a walboro 255 pump cuz stock jus doesn't cut it. oil lines, connectors, it all add's up fast.

 

OK I can tell you off the top of my head, Rev hard mani's at nizzx go for $300, Ivan at phatka-t can sell you a moderatly well welded mani for $500, he also sells those top of the line off the wall super duper welded ones for $700




I know where to get used and reconditioned T25~T28 for $150~$300


OK your still not looking hard enough

LOL those are all devices you can buy after you have put together a turbo kit (accept for the injectors). Using a stock ka24e MAF is the same as using the SR maf, I know plenty of wrecking yards that sell them for under $35.00, you can run boost to about 18PSI. Why even mess with an SAFC you can get retunable biki rom for $300 comes with tunable turbo .bin files.
You forgot the walbro fuel pump that you can pick up for under $90.
You haven't done any real searching IMO....
Like Ludacriss told Bill O'Reily you can blow it out your A$$.

 

i was talking brand new parts like a phat ka manifold. and i was talking for 300+ hp and what do u mean by that?i love getting flamed and nizzx.com isn't workin for me

 

Nizzx does work use I.E you can't use netscape or fire fox there on a linux server. I have said this numerous times. Refurbished turbo's for $300 are like new. If you want good quality for an inexpensive price you are going to have to look into used equipment. You can make 300CHP with the KA on a KA24e maf. But your not going to make a typical 300CHP with 370cc injection.

 

then what do u suggest?

 

I'm tired of typing the same shiat once a week.....SEARCH!!!!!!

 

nizx site don't work because they can't make it FF/Netscape compatible. They're losing exposure that way.

 

I don't think Nizzx cares about exposure it's ran by 2 guys Steven and Mike. Obviously if they made there server base compliant for FF/Netscape they would lose business do to the fact that they wouldn't be able to keep up with there customer base, they would also have to raise prices and have a larger staff.
If you look at NIZZX prices they offer some of the best that no one else on the market can compete with. Plus they were one of first companies to sell KA-T equipment.

Obviously nizzx is doing something good, they have been in business for over 5 years. Boostdesigns went under from to much exposure. Good example as to why some companies should just stay small.

 

Ok that just didn't make sense. There is no way that's the reason, cmon now.

"I will purposely hold back exposure to my site because if I had more customers I'd have to raise prices and hire more people. And I will do so by not doing something simple like making my site compliant to certain web standards".

I can name 1 company off the top of my head that is run by 1-2 guys, who have been in the aftermarket business longer than 5 years, who get the volume of customers and yet have no problems with needing to raise prices or hire staff. And what happens when there are too many customers? They wait. Why? Because the companies reputation and service speak for themselves. And mind you , this particular company - everyone pretty much knows or has heard of them - both west and east coast. I bet you have too, and yet 2 guys. No problems keeping it going. No problems with pricing. No problems with having to hire new staff.

Boost designs made too many empty promises and failed to come through - their failure had nothing to do with "too many customers". It came from being shady and making too many excuses.

For once, that doesn't sound like a valid explanation coming from you ROFL did you just make that up?

 

Technically why would you want to delay your customer a service? I mean back orders don't make people happy, it doesn't even make me happy. Beyond BD being shady there were complaints on how much lag there was in back orders it simply was to far out of control and disorganized for JP to keep control over. He lied to customers to keep the money thats all it was, and he simply couldn't keep up with the demand KA-t turbo products he sold, it's that simple.
Nizzx on the other hand runs a small operation that would be easy to control, once you need a larger staff to run a business due to a larger consumer base the company is more likely to lose money, hence raising prices to pay for employment.

I know the employment end pretty well, sometimes I wonder if I can pay people and still walk away with the shirt off my back.
Smaller operations can make more money than expanding the business, looking for a larger client base only expands the business. Even though nizzx is still on some archaic linux server there name still gets out there and there products are sold.

Could nizzx change there web site???? Yes , but why, there obviously comfortable with the customer base and the kind of money they are making, so why change what they feel is a good thing. If someone wants a product bad enough they will buy it no matter how shiaty the web site is it's that simple.

 

Losing control can be attributed to offering more than he can handle. That's a business mistake. But lying to keep money is where he got shady.

Not being able to keep up the demand was not because of a good website or too many customers - he coulldn't provide what he promised. Delaying his customers a service was born out of him making false claims that parts were available in the first place. If there was
known delays on inventory, he should have told the customers - waiting or not - that there would be a delay from the beginning. Instead he made false guarantees and promises to those customers and in the end he got what he deserved.

In this industry a backlog of customers means there's a demand for the products offered. If Nizzx has good prices and they ship high quality items with good service, then people who have to wait their turn will wait. You know how it is - would you wait a week or two to get the eparts you want for the price advertised? Or would you say "screw them they don't have it when I want it now" and pay more somewhere else who might not have the reputation that Nizzx has? I don't know about you, but I bet most car enthusiasts would do the former. Hell, people will wait months for a set of wheels from Japan rather than buy cheap FF offfset knock offs.

"looking for a larger client base only expands the business."

A larger client base = more potential profit on a volume scale. It's up to the company whether they can handle the added volume, or if they need to expand operations.

If Nizzx is happy with what customers they do have, then good for them - but doubling your exposure by having a compliant source of information that represents your company (in this case, the website) does not require you to automatically expand your business as a practice. Your post made it seem like a business is required to expand due to an expanding customer base, when that option is ultimately up to the business themselves. That's what I was referring to.

BTW to cover all bases, I've started my own business from scratch and I had employees I had to pay. A year after we opened our demand skyrocketed, and we had a similar choice - hire more people, make more product, and feed the masses - or stay with who we have, produce at our pace, and tell the customers who are in line that they woulld have wait.

After 6 months we finally got to everyone who was on that list, and no one backed out for a readily-available, inferior product over ours.

If Nizzx is that reliable (which I believe they are) then they probably wouldn't see "more exposure" as a problem

 

oh man, this stuff is so off topic~ l2aine, what products did your business offer? I'm thinking of starting my own too sometime in the future...