Group Buy Feeler: AMS/Turbo240 Fully counterweighted Crank
#1
Group Buy Feeler: AMS/Turbo240 Fully counterweighted Crank
I have the opportunity to bring this crank into reality if there is enough interest in it. I would be willing to run a group buy in order to get the ball rolling on this thing. Here are the specs which are currently available.
4340, fully machined billet construction
Straight oil holes, (each rod recieves its own oil feed from a main journal, unlike the factory crank.
Pricing would be as follows
Single crank, $1600 + ship
5 People, $1400 + ship
10 People, $1300 + ship
Post up your interest, one way or another, I've had some reports saying that we would have 5 people in on it no problem...
I already have one person who is in on the GB if it goes through...
I'll probably get one too!
1. Ivan
2. Chris
3. BigVinnie
4340, fully machined billet construction
Straight oil holes, (each rod recieves its own oil feed from a main journal, unlike the factory crank.
Pricing would be as follows
Single crank, $1600 + ship
5 People, $1400 + ship
10 People, $1300 + ship
Post up your interest, one way or another, I've had some reports saying that we would have 5 people in on it no problem...
I already have one person who is in on the GB if it goes through...
I'll probably get one too!
1. Ivan
2. Chris
3. BigVinnie
#2
YES!!!!!! Chris you are the man!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you guys love the KA you need to get in on this crank shaft. Chris and I were speaking about the benefits that a fully counterweighed crank could achieve for the KA over 3months ago....
Fully counterweighed cranks offer smoother harmonics, a broader rev range, and ultimately more HP and torque!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cmon' on guy's just need 10 people for the deal of the century!!!!!!!!!!
If you guys love the KA you need to get in on this crank shaft. Chris and I were speaking about the benefits that a fully counterweighed crank could achieve for the KA over 3months ago....
Fully counterweighed cranks offer smoother harmonics, a broader rev range, and ultimately more HP and torque!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cmon' on guy's just need 10 people for the deal of the century!!!!!!!!!!
#5
i would be definately down as long as my credit card does not get maxed out by the time you guys order them. what are you planning to do about the engine internals? surely stock engine could not handle fully counterweighed crankshaft.
also, would independent throttle bodies go good with a ka24de?? with this crankshaft, it would rev high enough to benifit from it.
also, would independent throttle bodies go good with a ka24de?? with this crankshaft, it would rev high enough to benifit from it.
#6
i would be definately down as long as my credit card does not get maxed out by the time you guys order them. what are you planning to do about the engine internals? surely stock engine could not handle fully counterweighed crankshaft.
also, would independent throttle bodies go good with a ka24de?? with this crankshaft, it would rev high enough to benifit from it.
also, would independent throttle bodies go good with a ka24de?? with this crankshaft, it would rev high enough to benifit from it.
Chris is accepting $700 deposits to take people seriously before a group buy goes through I guess we will wait for a awhile to get the 10 people so we can get the crank for $1300, rather than $1600. I don't mind if AMS holds a deposit from me for a while...
#9
what kind of performance gains can be expected from this? I'll be running Crower rods, JWT cams, and full Race mani with Holset turbo along with a fully ported, polished head with oversized valves. Would this make me any serious gains? Also still trying to figure out pistons, I don't like the ones I have.
#10
what kind of performance gains can be expected from this? I'll be running Crower rods, JWT cams, and full Race mani with Holset turbo along with a fully ported, polished head with oversized valves. Would this make me any serious gains? Also still trying to figure out pistons, I don't like the ones I have.
Smoother harmonics show better gains, it's proven. Torque band would be much more linear and less drop off in HP unlike half weighted.
Dunno if you read this thread that I put together, but it should make it easier to understand performance gains.
Not to mention Chris and Ivan plan to make this crank an AERO design crank, which is actually proven to increase HP by breaking the resistance of windage, and oil in the crank case. We are talking about some serious rev coming out of this engine with the new crank and balancing.
http://www.club240.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40633
Heres the circle track article on AERO crank shaft design.
http://www.circletrack.com/techartic...ft_technology/
http://www.circletrack.com/techartic.../photo_03.html
Also individual oil feeding to each rod journal will cut down on a significant amount of friction which eats up HP. This is something the stock crank lacks.
Last edited by BigVinnie; 08-16-2007 at 09:39 PM.
#12
Yeah, I'm interested also, but I think 1300 is a little high, considering it hasn't been tested and we don't know the gains to be expected. 1300 bucks in a decent turbo kit, without the turbo. Throw another 300 with it and a tune and you can gaurantee yourself 250+ to the wheels. Is that the best they can do?
Last edited by deuce; 11-18-2008 at 07:20 PM. Reason: felt like whining
#13
I want an AMS FCW crank for my KA24 and would gladly pay $1,300, 1400 for it.
Please sign me up!
Aaron D.
Please sign me up!
Aaron D.
Last edited by Aaron D; 01-07-2009 at 08:42 PM. Reason: I signed up for this forum just for this thread :)
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