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Old 12-19-2004, 01:27 PM
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advanced timing

where are the timing marks on the crank puley? a pic would be perfect
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Old 12-19-2004, 04:03 PM
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never mind just had to clean the pulley a little, but now i need to know where the mark on the block is that points to the marks on the pulley. i thought i new where it was but when i checked the timing where i thought the mark was the noches on the pulley didnt line up, until i turned the dial on my timing light to 60 degreas advanced. so i must not be looking at the right mark.
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Originally posted by franman s13
never mind just had to clean the pulley a little, but now i need to know where the mark on the block is that points to the marks on the pulley. i thought i new where it was but when i checked the timing where i thought the mark was the noches on the pulley didnt line up, until i turned the dial on my timing light to 60 degreas advanced. so i must not be looking at the right mark.
there's supposed to be a needle-type pointer just above the crank pulley - not a mark on the block itself. You can see the needle pointer from the right side of the crank pulley. This needle is supposed to point to 20 degrees advanced. There are 6 marks on the crank, with the second mark being a different color from the rest. The marks are as follows (read from left to right):

- 5 degrees before TDC
- (different color) top dead center, piston #1
- 5 degrees after TDC
- 10 degrees after TDC
- 15 degrees after TDC
- 20 degrees after TDC

If you can't see the alignment pointer, it's directly below the center part of the belt connecting the power steering pump pulley to the water pump pulley (highest belt in the engine bay)
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Old 12-25-2004, 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by l2aine
there's supposed to be a needle-type pointer just above the crank pulley - not a mark on the block itself. You can see the needle pointer from the right side of the crank pulley. This needle is supposed to point to 20 degrees advanced. There are 6 marks on the crank, with the second mark being a different color from the rest. The marks are as follows (read from left to right):

- 5 degrees before TDC
- (different color) top dead center, piston #1
- 5 degrees after TDC
- 10 degrees after TDC
- 15 degrees after TDC
- 20 degrees after TDC

If you can't see the alignment pointer, it's directly below the center part of the belt connecting the power steering pump pulley to the water pump pulley (highest belt in the engine bay)
Whats the correct degrees for an advancing timing on the KA24DE?

Im not sure if I did it right. I think mine is at 10 degrees or so.
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Old 12-25-2004, 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by rivneo1
Whats the correct degrees for an advancing timing on the KA24DE?

Im not sure if I did it right. I think mine is at 10 degrees or so.
It's in my post:

"This needle is supposed to point to 20 degrees advanced. "

That's FSM spec for the KA24DE.
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Question Just to make sure!

Originally posted by l2aine
It's in my post:

"This needle is supposed to point to 20 degrees advanced. "

That's FSM spec for the KA24DE.
Ok ,one more ?? ,is 20 degrees the normal timing or that would be if its advanced?
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He said FSM SPEC....what does that mean? Hmm perhaps factory specs?

It says so under the hood too. Well on my s13 anyways.
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Well I want to advanced mine ,so I dont know where Im supposed to exactly set it at!
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Originally posted by rivneo1
Well I want to advanced mine ,so I dont know where Im supposed to exactly set it at!
Well then turn the distributor more so the needle goes paset 20 degrees. Exactly where? Can't tell you, since there are no marks after 20 degrees.

BTW if you advance it, don't expect too much of a power gain, and I assume you are ready to use premium gasoline now, right?
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Originally posted by l2aine
Well then turn the distributor more so the needle goes paset 20 degrees. Exactly where? Can't tell you, since there are no marks after 20 degrees.

BTW if you advance it, don't expect too much of a power gain, and I assume you are ready to use premium gasoline now, right?
I always do use 93 premium fuel especially Chevron or Shell ,sometimes when Im really I have to stop on the nearest gas but I do still use 93 ,thanX for the advice though.
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Originally posted by rivneo1
I always do use 93 premium fuel especially Chevron or Shell ,sometimes when Im really I have to stop on the nearest gas but I do still use 93 ,thanX for the advice though.
damn, you still have 93 out there? We used to have 92 as the highest common, but then they got sneaky and dropped it to 91
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Damn, Cali only has up to 91.. thats pretty crazy, I'm so used to seeing 93
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Yeap a few days ago Chevron 93 octane gas was around 1.80$ the gallon or so ,lowest I had seen it is around 1.75
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yeah our 91 rings in at around $2.30/gal.

Welcome to California.
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Originally posted by l2aine
yeah our 91 rings in at around $2.30/gal.

Welcome to California.
OMG ,I didnt know how bad its outhere but damn u guys got alot more hot chick on that side of the Country so look at it as a good thing to live there

I hope it get better for you guys outhere .
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