I say get the RB powered 240 and forget about the talon or an AE86 but im pro nissan all day. My friend has a 1985 corolla gts "AE86" with 80k on it but its just not my thing...the nissans are faster and more reliable but like i said im pro nissan haha.

 

just build a car

 

To be polittically correct, an '85 corolla is AE85. The numbers correlate with the production year.

I would love to get my hands on a genuine AE86 GTS. That would be teh sex.

 

Research eagle talons and mitsubishi eclipse.
Most of there engines till I believe 1998 had serious crank walk issues.
They would burn oil and cause a separation between the flywheel, and clutch causing alot of chatter, and eventually bend rods, and valve train.
Crank walk was caused by defective bearings and journals to the crank shaft.
You would be stupid to buy the talon unless you used a newer gen engine.
If you haven't noiced there aren't many on the road to date.

 

Leave it to Vinnie to break it down and help you make the wise decision LOL

How you been V?

 

sorry to break your heart vinnie, but there engines from 89-94 were 4g63's a good motor to build power on. the motor was a very reliable motor, and crank walk was unheard of on a 6 bolt motor. On the other hand the newer engines arent worth much. because they have crank walk problems and valvetrain problems, sorry to be an *** but get your facts straight.

 

This guy is correct regarding crankwalk on DSM's. Around 2nd Gen, the 7bolt ****, is when you get the crankwalk like crazy. Earlier 4G63's, 6bolt, is the way to go, motors are very very strong and respond pretty good to mods (When I'm talking about 4G63's and all of this, I'm talking about the turbo version).

 

Cough cough.... I really hate it when people tell me to get facts straight, I'm old school and have known about crank walk prior to 1993 Talon TSI's. OOPS did I studer, I have my facts straight GSX/TSI AWD eclipse, Talon had crank walk, all the way till the 97 model year with there Turbo 2G engines.....
As I claimed I assumed they had problems until 1998 so I was 1 year off. The problem was supposedly fixed in 97~98, so mitsubishi claims.

Honestly the only thing I like about DSM are ther ecu's, you can boost the crap out of it and it can readjust A/Fr's unlike nissan ECCS, but thats it in a nut shell.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/w...crankshaft.htm

Well he's wrong Bryan, if it's only partial truth it's still isn't fact, then I am not wrong either because the 7 bolt main was designed for the Talon from 1992 until-1999 according to wikipedia.That means 1G Talons TSI's used the 7 bolt configuration while the eclipseGSX didn't use the 7 bolt until 1995, just to straighten out every ones so little knowledge about the piece of crap Talon.
This engine came from the mitsubishi lancer, correct me if wikipedia is wrong. Supposedly the issue was fixed in 97 but I know people that complain about the crank walk with there 7 bolt 1997's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Talon

So basically anything 7 bolt is crap, and I just proved it was made for the Talon TSI 1G and 2G from 1992 till 1999!!!!!!! I do enough research before I open my big fatty mouth thats why I am a mod... Fact is the problem in the 1G wasn't as common as the 2G probably because of the differences in the manufacturing process but fact is it still happened in earlier 7 bolt 1G Talons. what is also wierd about the whole crank walk issue is that production became smaller and smaller after 95, and the problem was still as common, but less common from 92-94 where the production numbers were much larger. Just Thought I would point that out. Not to mention that most defective cranks were found more offen in the talon than they were in the eclipse. If you ask me I think Mitsubishi knew they had bad cranks and shipped them off for use in Chrysler engines.

I'm just informing you of the truth so you know what you are buying, I'm not trying to be a dick so please don't correct me when I am right.

So next time when I say.
Just do it without your little conceded and belittling attitude.




Doing good, meet me at Thunder Drift. It's going down next weekend for 2 days.
At thunder hill thats inbetween where both of us live.

 

I will see you at thunder drift also, BBQ!!!!!

 

Woot Woot!!!!!!!
The camp out on saturday night is going to be off da hinges!!!!

Sorry to thread jack..

 

Not to start an arguement, i just want you to know the truth, And that is why in the title of this post it says 1G talon, which i ment DSM. And when you were talking about "how crappy they are", you forgot about the plymouth laser. thanks

 

1g Talons use the 7bolt starting in 92 that is the truth. DSM is still used under the plymouth, and chrysler names as well since... Well mitsubishi imported it directly.

Well yeah the plymouth was pretty crappy especially since sales sucked and it was discontinued.

 

Vinnie is correct and I concure completely with him on the dsm portion of this thread. The 7 bolts engines started in 4-3-92 in all eagle talon, mitsubishi eclipse and plymouht lasers. The turbo models of course. The fact is if it has a 7 bolt it will crankwalk eventually. The other problem is finding a good 1g anymore that has not been completely raped or hacked up. the old saying of you get what you pay for I believe holds more true in the dsm cars than most others, lol.


Also, as a side note I would have to say generaly any older dsm that someone is selling for $800 will most likely need something other than just a set of rings. It most likely will need new clutch pedal assemblies as they go out often in the 1g cars, shifter cables etc. The dsms are turning into money pits more and more these days because of the way they have been maintained (or abused is more like it) and modified. Not only that but,they are getting old and the dealerships are starting to discontinue parts. Just a heads up.

 

O.K so do you want to try and break my heart bighroder. This info just came from a guy that owns a 95 eclipse. You have a GMC logo as your sig, claim that s15's are really made in the usa, yet you are only 16 years old, get your facts straight.
Thread closed A$$hole.

 

yeah this was going kind of far