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Old 12-12-2002 | 09:48 PM
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Question got money...need 11's (cont)

Ok...from what i can tell (from my last thread), the RB is going to be the better motor. Right? How much (money and parts) would it take to get a SR to run in the 11's. Does the Rb require a tranny swap? Also what is the best year car to get(95 and up).
Old 12-12-2002 | 10:05 PM
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The SR20 need a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, fuel pump, fuel management of some sort and some sticky tires. Oh yea also a boost controller of some sort.
Old 12-12-2002 | 10:17 PM
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and that will yeild 11's? How much will all that cost?
Old 12-12-2002 | 10:26 PM
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And this time lets keep it to an adult level and not act like a bunch of ricers to get this topis closed. Lethal is my boy, he owned an all day long 11second LS1 t/a, and it cost him $300 to get there.... I guess he wants to do the import thang for awhile. Welp, your my buddy and even though you are getting an import we all still LuV ya!!!
Old 12-13-2002 | 12:42 AM
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As I said before, the RB can be done. You'll be used to it since it is a larger engine with a sufficient amont of HP and torque. It's a Inline 6 unlike a 4, has decent compression, doesn't need a new tranny (since the tranny's come in clips or motor sets), and it's quick. That's all I am saying. For $6000 in parts including engine, you could have a damn fast S13......S14 wouldn't necessarily be as fast because (don't quote me on this) I believe it is heavier than the S13 240SX, and it is bulkier which doesn't allow for as good aerodynamics.

The S13 model 180SX (US 240SX) was so popular in Japan that they made it until 1998. The S14 was only made as the Silvia and Nissan didn't see great results, which is why they switched back with the S15 to a similar body shape as the S13, and since then, history has been made. The new S15 is bad ***....even if it's got a SR, it's still nice and wicked fast.

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Old 12-13-2002 | 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by NightXCZ77


The S13 model 180SX (US 240SX) was so popular in Japan that they made it until 1998. The S14 was only made as the Silvia and Nissan didn't see great results, which is why they switched back with the S15 to a similar body shape as the S13, and since then, history has been made. The new S15 is bad ***....even if it's got a SR, it's still nice and wicked fast.

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Huh?!?! S15 similar body style as the S13?!?! S13 coupe is nowhere close to the look of the S15
Old 12-13-2002 | 01:18 AM
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What I am saying (off topic and only this one post) is that Nissan lost interest on the S14 model in Japan. The S13 was such a popular design that they reverted back to that style of body. Not wide and large like the S14 whose style was no longer produced and only on market for 4 years (95-98), it was reverted to a lower, sleeker design, like it's look-a-like S13 model, which is why the two followed each other. S13 ended in 98, S15 started in 99. The two have almost the same length, width etc....they are very similar, just different front end, headlights, tails,etc....but body shape is very similar. It became a big hit in Japan. They also have a similar "hatch" like design. If you don't see it, then either you or I am missing something.

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Old 12-13-2002 | 06:43 AM
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i have a question for drag racers..
what is the obsession with the 11 second range?

i've never really been into it much, but like to pull away form people at lights and what not.....especially in my honda

so what gives?
Old 12-13-2002 | 07:36 AM
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a consistant 11 second time slip give you a car that can beat 95% of the cars on the street....

as far as Drag racing, i think that gone and passed by now. If your not in the mid to low 10's your not really going to be able to contend in anything...that goes for all motor also....

honestly the obsession is.....Being able to say "i have an 11 second car".....

people dont realize what it is, or how fast it is etc.....IMO, go for a 13 second car...then see how hard it is to get it into the 12's, and then see how hard to get to the `11's....but dont set your goals too hard.

11 sec sr:
sr=2000
standalone=2300
turbo kit t3/t4=3300
ic/fuel setup=3000
exhaust+accesories=1500
suspension/cage/ect=3000

figure 10-15k into the motor/suspension.
Old 12-13-2002 | 07:54 AM
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don't get me wrong here. i realize 11 seconds to 125 mph is fast....but damn... what an obsession!
i'm building my car to be a monster.
high top speed, power to accelerate quickly, bend corners, and stop.....and still be safe.
the way i look at it is unless you are gona race on a level like that, then you should get paid for it.
on the other hand. as a car fanitic i completely understand the obsession.
i was just curious why 11 was such a popular number......
we all know in the world of racing,
a half second is a lifetime
Old 12-13-2002 | 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by LI S13 Blacktop
a consistant 11 second time slip give you a car that can beat 95% of the cars on the street....

as far as Drag racing, i think that gone and passed by now. If your not in the mid to low 10's your not really going to be able to contend in anything...that goes for all motor also....

honestly the obsession is.....Being able to say "i have an 11 second car".....

people dont realize what it is, or how fast it is etc.....IMO, go for a 13 second car...then see how hard it is to get it into the 12's, and then see how hard to get to the `11's....but dont set your goals too hard.

11 sec sr:
sr=2000
standalone=2300
turbo kit t3/t4=3300
ic/fuel setup=3000
exhaust+accesories=1500
suspension/cage/ect=3000

figure 10-15k into the motor/suspension.
Everyone has there own ways of getting into the 11's...yours definitely cost more than mine.
GT3037- $1675
SR20-$2000 complete
I/C- $850
Fuel/Chipped Ecu setup-$800+
Exhaust/Dp-$650
Cage/Sus-$1500
Electronincs/Gauges-$1500
Thats how much it would cost out the door w/o labor. Add labor and its another $1000 to get into the 11's. Those that have the SR20 already just need the turbo and fuel setup to run 11's.
Thats a basic estimate but pretty much what it takes. This guy in LA hit 12.52@113mph with just a Tec2 and a T28 and upgraded injectors. So there are a lot of ways of doing it.
Old 12-13-2002 | 09:31 AM
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LethalKid69 how old are you?
Old 12-13-2002 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by suckit
Everyone has there own ways of getting into the 11's...yours definitely cost more than mine.
GT3037- $1675
SR20-$2000 complete
I/C- $850
Fuel/Chipped Ecu setup-$800+
Exhaust/Dp-$650
Cage/Sus-$1500
Electronincs/Gauges-$1500
Thats how much it would cost out the door w/o labor. Add labor and its another $1000 to get into the 11's. Those that have the SR20 already just need the turbo and fuel setup to run 11's.
Thats a basic estimate but pretty much what it takes. This guy in LA hit 12.52@113mph with just a Tec2 and a T28 and upgraded injectors. So there are a lot of ways of doing it.
Yea, exactly, without labor....if someone here is asking what they will need, my final #'s will be closer to the real cost...

i know how cheap i could do it for, and so do others, but we dont pay retail : )

i hit 12.8@109mph, with an SAFC. (stock motor, stock ecu, stock turbo, open diff), so whats your point?

but to be honest, retail on a new t28 is like 8-900, tec2 is 1750+tuning (2400total), and injectors are 4-500, so really, thats almost 3 g's + motor, 5ktotal, without suspension and everything, and only in the 12's....ya know.

that 3037 isnt going to fit the stock manifold, so add 1000-1500ret for the exhaust manifold to your price....

chipped ecu = blah

if i was looking to just make an 11 second pass, id go with a forced performance BIG28 (900), IC (850), 550cc(450), and a boost controller (300) : )

so for like under 5k i can make a car do 11's, but is that whats wanted? i dont think so, and i was being realistic on what it will cost....In MOST cases it wont be done by someone for less than 11k$.....


OR just get an RB, throw a t67 on their and some fuel, a little tuning, and go.

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Old 12-13-2002 | 02:46 PM
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S13 - exactly what I am saying....retail prices kill. If you don't pay retail and you pay wholesale as I do, building a car to 11's is damn easy and not too expensive.

On your SR20 - you have the S15 right? Otherwise, I've never heard those numbers from a stock SR20 unless the boost is up or you've got some nice slicks - hit me back, I want to know what you had when you ran that

And as far as the T67 goes - hell yes to that one.....pump 20psi and fly to the 10's with some nice fatty tires on the back.

Night

P.S. - glad this thread is staying clean.....
Old 12-13-2002 | 08:51 PM
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