Sinfestboy

oh god, its so messed up. for about 6+ months I have been going back and forth in my head between wanting a 1g awd DSM or a S13 240 with SR.....

and now d-day is getting near. I have ~3 months to decide for sure.

right now, its leaning towards the DSM, but just barely. My dilemma is that the dsm is awd.... thats handy when you have snow for 3 months out of the year.... but I cant drift, and it doesnt look as good. but at the same time, the 240 would require the engine swap, which would cost some extra money that I would rather not spend..... but at the same time, it would be fun. and the 240 handles alot better, too. and I love the look of wide tires, and I cant do them on the DSM, but I can on the 240. But the fact is, the DSM would be much faster than the 240 in a straight line...... damnit, I CANT DECIDE!!! someone HELP!!!

I'm with Stupid

Who ever told you you can't drift an awd car is a liar. Anyway to get to the point. The down side of a DSM is.... AWD DSM's tend to have weak trannies and weak center diffs. that may fail. Plus you'd be buying a really old turbo car that'd probably need a rebuild where as the 240 needs a new engine so. On the good side some of them have a pretty cool 6 speaker stereo.

Also just so you know the best year DSM's are '89-92 with the 6 bolt 4G63.

Sinfestboy

well, its not that they have weak trannys, their trannys are as strong as any other stock car, the problem is, with awd, the force has to be absorbed somewhere, and unfortunatly, its the tranny, and thats what breaks first.... but that can be fixed (www.bmtranny.com www.teamrip.com)

I came here looking for some convincing that the 240 is the way to go.... come on, now.

leiferik1

how about this.


if you DONT buy the 240 i'll break your legs and **** on your face

I'm with Stupid

I guess that's a good point but they're center diffs. still break. Quaife doesn't even offer a warranty on the center diff. for the dsm. I'd prefer the GS-T offer the GSX, but that's just me. Anyway if you're so unsure about what car you want why not test drive both and then decide?

Sinfestboy

well, the thing is, when tuned, these cars act NOTHING like how they were stock. a 240, with 10 inch tires and a 300hp SR would probably be nothing like a stock 240. same deal with DSM's. so while test driving would be a little important, it wouldnt be a deciding factor.

spitz7985

the GSX's awd system is 80% of the torque to the front wheels, 20% to the back. seems pretty weak to me

rbboyl

I've never driven an awd dsm, but i'd take the 240 over any dsm because eclipses/talons are EVERYWHERE.

If you were talking about a vr-4 or stealth TT though, I'd take one of those over my 240.

Um, taht wasn't that great of an argument, but uh, I havent driven an awd dsm so...get a 240!

kaos

What are you looking for. ... Are you looking at 1/4 mile or off the line? Or are you looking at highway speeds and racing on the go? Off the line and 1/4 mile then definetly the AWD but highway speeds or racing on the go then the AWD will hurt you and I would go either FWD DSM or 240.

Sinfestboy

too bad thats...... WRONG!

spitz7985

good to see you have plenty of proof to back that up....

I'm with Stupid

No... it's wrong. They have 50/50.

Sinfestboy

well, lets see... go to either www.dsmtalk.com or www.dsmtuners.com and ask about the power distribution. I have already done that, a long time ago, and guess what......

spitz7985

"When you first start to accelerate the car will put more power to the front wheels. The AWD has a center diff and has a Viscous Coupler. The VC is fluid filled and as the centrifugal force from accelerating caused the fluid to move outward it sends power to the rear. The center diff will then do a 50/50 split in power. Because the diff is open it can end up sending more power the front or rear depending on traction. (I added a Quaife center diff which is designed to do the opposite of the open diff.. If the front starts to spin it will send more power to the rear. Stock open diff will send power to the front if they are spinning...)"