h22lude

I am looking for a project car. I have a 98 Honda Prelude that is a great car but I want turbo and I really don't want to chance blowing a ring land on the H22 so I decided to find a project S14 240 SX. When I get the 240 I want to swap a RB25DET into it. I have been lookign around and found this site taht does the swap for 8600. This is what it comes with:
- Front Mount intercooler and custom piping (New GPP style core)
- GReddy Profec B Spec II Electronic Boost controller
- Custom Intake and piping
- Motor and tranny Mount Set
- Custom O2 housing
- Custom Driveshaft
- Custom Downpipe
- (2) Flex-A-Lite Fans
- Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
- all wiring, power steering
- New hoses, belts, fluids, and plugs

THe price includes all that, obviously the skyline engine, install and a warranty.

Is that a good price that all of that or should I look around some more?

Is the RB swap a hard swap to do? I haven't done a swap before but my friends dad was a mechanic before he retired and he knows a lot about engines so he could help so I can save on the install price. Is it worth it?

-HyJynX-

I would see if you can lower it by a couple or few hundred. Not a bad price though! What site are you looking into? The RB25 swap isnt to hard(from what I hear)...but costly

h22lude

That comes from xatracing.com. I live in Rhode Island so I would like a shop close to me but if I can't find one then I will have to eitehr ship it or drive it to the shop.

When you say costly do you mean costly for labor or costly for the engine and other parts you need?

-HyJynX-

Costly for labor, parts are more pricer then SR parts...but not to bad.

h22lude

Is the install worth the 8600 or should I try and do it myself? I found a clip for 2400. It would probably take me a while to do.

-HyJynX-

The install itself is nothing hard, the wiring is where it gets a little tough. But there are a couple members here that can help you with that. If I were you, I would do the install my self. You can save a good 1000-1500

h22lude

1500 is a good amount to save.

Would I have to custom make a driveshaft or could I get one with the clip from the r33?

Like I said I haven't worked on an engine before but my friends dad has so he could help. Is there a good site I can look at that will help with the swap? EDIT ok I found srswap and that gives a good install of SR but what about RB?

I know a RB motor has more stock HP and Torque but that 8600 is killing me and even with the saved 1000 to 1500 brings it down to 7100. On the same site I saw that they will do a SR20DET red top with the following for 6000 and it is suppose to make 260rwhp:
SR20DET red-top motor-set, GReddy 3" Downpipe, Greddy Turbo Timer,
Greddy Profec B Spec II Boost Controller, Walbro 255 Fuel pump,
Greddy type-s BOV and flange welded to hot pipe,
3" custom cat-back exhaust (choice of N1 style or drager style muffler),
Greddy V-spec frount mount intercooler, Flex-A-Lite dual 12" electric fan, new small battery, all fluids,
NGK plugs, working and charged a/c, power steering, and installation of motor and all parts

Or they have a package that gets it to 310rwhp for 7100. At this point is the stock RB worth the 8600 installed? I know this might start a battle but to get the RB to 290 it would cost 11000 so going with the SR20 with 310 it cost 3000 less.

Comments welcome

-HyJynX-

You will have to get a driveshaft custom made, or by one all ready made from a shop like mckinney(a bit pricey though).

The RBvsSR battle will go on forever and ever. What do you plan on doing with your car, that will help us and you to find out which engine is best suited for you.

h22lude

My plan right now is to keep the HP semi low. When I say semi I don't mean 250, more in the 300 area. Take it do the drag, mess with peoplen , and enter in shows.

From all teh reading I did, I like teh RB motor over the SR, I also love skylines. But I think for what I need/want the RB would be a waste of $8600. Liek I said I can get 310 with around $7k and if I did want mroe I could upgrade here and there.

DO you think the SR20DET is the route for me?

-HyJynX-

Since you said enter shows and drag, IMO RB25 is the way to go. It will def. be worth the extra money. RBs are GREAT for drag, and in shows you will def. be different then all the other cars.

Then again you can save the money and go with the SR and do more stuff to your car or get more HP. Its all up to you man. Good luck with the choice

hitokiri_808

theres always the rb20. cheaper than the sr20 with 2 more cylinders and you can still say you have a skyline engine. it would be good for drag and look good in shows.

h22lude

I am new to this forum, but I have been SEARCHING () a lot and came up with soem good info. THis SR vs RB thing is hard. On one hand the SR is cheaper so I can get more thigns done but then teh RB with look good at a show and it is a skilyine engine, you can't go wrong with that.

How well does an RB20 fit? Is that as good as the SR? Sorry don't know much about RB20.

-HyJynX-

Search around for the RB20 stuff, its all over the place. It has 10+ more horses then the SR and more torque. Higher rev band and just about the same potential as a RB25. The installation is A LOT cheaper(you dont need to get so many custom parts)

h22lude

I just talked to taylor at xatracing about what was a good motor to put into a 240sx and he said that since the SR is cheaper and easier to install, that would be the best way to go. It is also 300 lbs lighter than the RB and he siad the SR reacts better to mods than the RB does. I am just quoting him, don't mean to start WW3. I think since I want to do the install myself and save some money I might go with the SR and get a performance package to make it 310.

The RB does weight a lot and it is a lot more expensive to get it to the same 310. Just my thoughts.

-HyJynX-

Omg...lies. I dont want to start a big arguemnt either, but the RB20 is less then 100 pounds heavier then the SR, and the RB25 is like 125 pounds heavier then the SR. Not exact numbers, but i Know its no where near 300 pounds heavier. the RB reacts A LOT better to mods since its a 6 cylinder and some RB25s have bigger displacement. Just getting the facts straight. Go with what you can afford